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  Bush Bash, Anti-gay marrige.

  by SC_Guy in

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  i think bush is trying to screw this country one more time before he's voted out of office....

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  Satans little helper

  I didn't spot this thread til after I posted in the other newer thread.

  Polygamy was ok in the bible, as were underage marraiges. A whole gamut of situations are chronicled in the OT. That's not the point though, this debate is about how society has moved morally. People in general have put aside their bigotry against gays and have decided that they deserve equal rights. Why shouldn't it extend to marraige?

  Looking at the legal arguement, in addition to all the other inconsistencies you had laws banning mixed race marraiges not so long ago. Are you really trying to say that because it was on the law books that it was right? The legal definition of marraige was one man and one woman - so long as they were the same colour, that has changed so why shouldn't it change to include same sex partners. We are not talking about legalising beastiality or paedophilia but about affording gay people equal rights under law - one nation indivisable and all that malarky.
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  Why does it have to be gay "marriage?"

  by spiritwalker in

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  i know this a hot topic, but i had some thinking on it i wanted to discuss.

  to begin, i have nothing against a gay man or lesbian woman and consider many to be friends.

  i would also like to express from the beginning in plain thought, "i think gay unions should be legal and do not see why it matters.".

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  Satans little helper

  Time and time again I've said this, gays have the same rights to marry as do straights...to marry an adult of the opposite gender. I take then, Satan's little helper, that you also approve of polygamy, and think the state should sanction this with marriage, or allowing a father/daughter (or son) or a brother/sister (or brother) state sanctioned marriage? Or are you a small minded left wing blow hard?

  Polygamy used to be ok in bible times so why not now? If your arguement rests on the biblical definition of marraige then you cannot argue against underage marraige, polygamy, or incestuous marraiges as these all are chronicled in the OT.

  If your arguement rests on what has been the basis of law then look at Utah, or that divorce was illegal in Ireland til very recently oh, and drugs were totally legal til quite recently, shall we go back to that situation? It's a fatuous arguement and holds no water.

  The point of this debate is that the moral compass has moved and the vast majority of people are more open minded and treasure equal rights. I have the right to marry who I love so why shouldn't gay people? All you are doing is trying to impose your morals on the rest of population, if that is the case how hard will you be able to scream if the next president decides to curb rights you hold dear?

  Edited to add: What was the average age of frontier wives when the US opened up? I'll give you a clue, it was below the current age of consent.
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  Why does it have to be gay "marriage?"

  by spiritwalker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this a hot topic, but i had some thinking on it i wanted to discuss.

  to begin, i have nothing against a gay man or lesbian woman and consider many to be friends.

  i would also like to express from the beginning in plain thought, "i think gay unions should be legal and do not see why it matters.".

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  Satans little helper

  what's so funny about that? I send Clare to the gates of the city as soon as her 'unclean time' comes each month so I am not defiled.
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  Why does it have to be gay "marriage?"

  by spiritwalker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this a hot topic, but i had some thinking on it i wanted to discuss.

  to begin, i have nothing against a gay man or lesbian woman and consider many to be friends.

  i would also like to express from the beginning in plain thought, "i think gay unions should be legal and do not see why it matters.".

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  Satans little helper

  the dictionary definition of marraige is irrelevant, this is a matter of principle. Do you believe in equal rights for all or are you a small minded right wing bigot?

  I couldn't care less who you sleep with or who you choose to commit the rest of your life to, we allow illiterate teenagers to marry each other and have the dignity of the legal framework that gives so why shouldn't gay people be given the same respect?

  It REALLY pisses me off that so many so called Christians are so bloody minded and judgemental when Jesus was anything but. Know this, if god does exist he hates you for being so unchristian
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  "I will tell you why you don't believe"

  by Sirona in

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  "do you want to know why you don't believe the truth anymore?

  i've just been asked this question by a jehovahs witness who stopped to talk to me in town.

  i'd told her i didn't believe anymore.

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  Satans little helper

  hahahahahahahahaha ROFLMFAO

  Thanks Sirona, I have just bust my gut laughing so hard. Divine gift? How can ignorance and stupidity be a divine gift?

  Anything to keep the sheep within the fold
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  If Morrisey Was a Jdub

  by gitasatsangha in

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  in my ongoing series of new kingdom melodies: .

  song 312: jah knows i'm miserable now.

  i was happy in the haze of my bethel days.

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  Satans little helper

  fantastic, Morissey's music always made me want to slash my wrists, almost as much as listening to those bland kingdom melodies
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  Why I wasn't such a good witness.......

  by Dawn in

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  i was thinking about my past as a jw today and realized that i never did fit the mold quite right.

  i studied, went to the meetings, out in service, and all those things so i appeared to be a great example.

  and i really did love god and wanted to do the right thing.

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  Satans little helper

  It's interesting that this exposes 2 problems with the dubs -

  firstly there is the obvious issue of creaming as much cash out of the troops as they can

  secondly the whole concept of putting off having a life now while pining for this possibility of wonderful life in a new order (which on closer inspection would be bloody awful, can you imagine having to spend eternity with a load of dubs???)
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  Why I wasn't such a good witness.......

  by Dawn in

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  i was thinking about my past as a jw today and realized that i never did fit the mold quite right.

  i studied, went to the meetings, out in service, and all those things so i appeared to be a great example.

  and i really did love god and wanted to do the right thing.

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  Satans little helper

  One of my main bugbears when I was a witness was that they actively discouraged charitable actions and donations. Now I can see it was because they wanted the money in their own coffers but at the time I just thought it was totally unchristian to not help people in need - it REALLY pissed me off in '84 or '85 when band aid happened and we had a special needs talk about how the best way to help people in need was to donate to the world wide work.
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  Smokers of the World, Unite and Take Over

  by gitasatsangha in

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  ahh.. nicotine.

  since leaving the jdubs, i find i enjoy lighting up a pipe in the evening, or sometimes the occasional cigar.

  tried cigarettes but i don't care for them much, myself.

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  Satans little helper

  Smoker and ex smoker - I gave up cigarettes in October and have only smoked 5 since then, but still smoke dope on a daily basis with rolling tobacco.

  I gave up the ciggies after 17 years using Alan Carr's easy way to stop smoking which has worked for alot of friends and this has been the easiest attempt to stop smoking yet - the book really alters the way you think about smoking tobacco.

  As for cannabis, yes it is still damaging to health although less so that tobacco smoking. There are still the tars, carcinogens and damaging elements present but we all know that anyway. Interestingly I haven't had a smoke at all this week as I have run out and I have managed to lose several pounds in weight and managed to wake up easily in the morning. Maybe it's time to relegate the dope smoking to only special occasions.
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  Does it ever get easier?

  by Surfacing in

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  my heart is palpitating even as i write this.

  it was only recently that i was introduced to this site.

  i had long had doubts but could never bring myself to peer over the wall built in my head about the evils of apostates.

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  Satans little helper

  Surfacing, well done for having the moral fortitude to look beyond the bullshit.

  My answer to your question is yes, it does get easier. Before too long you stop beating yourself up over the guilt you feel and your fear of not getting through armagheddon. I lost my mother at 16 and went through some of the stuff you describe and was subjected to the self same guilt trip - 'you will not see your mother again if you do not behave!'. At the end of the day you will come to recognise that everything the GB and the body of elders have said is all rubbish. The only hold they have on the flock is fear - fear of destruction at armagheddon and fear that you will be cut off from the congregation if you do not toe the line. Congratulations on having a loving wife who is switched on enough to be able to spot the inconsistencies and underlying harm of the JW teachings. Welcome to the real world

  Steve